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Mayan Ajq'ij Carlos Barrios talks with Joshua Samuelson about his first contact with the Mayan tradition, the meaning of Ajq'ij, his teachers and the dangers and climate in Guatemala during the civil war. We are greatful to Joshua for authoring and sharing this article.
Carlos, what is an Ajq'ij?
Ajq means lord and 'ij the sun. The Lord of the Sun. Sounds great huh?
But it's just a simple man working with the energies in the tradition
of the ancient people.
When was your first contact with a Mayan priest?
The Mayan culture had always interested me and I studied their
culture at school and by myself. Some history people told me that the Mayans
disappeared
and the present day indigenous people are just a not what the Mayans are just
a degenerative version of what they used to be. At University, there was an
opportunity to go to a small town called Todos Santos to work with a famous
sociologist called Dr Nelson Alan. One morning I got up at 5.30, and I went
for a walk in the mist. On this walk I saw a mysterious light and I walked
through the mist to it. Once I got there I saw it was indigenous people who
had created this fire and were putting these candles in the front of a type
of altar, called a stella, a stone inscribed with the characters of the Mayan
rite and the figure of a monkey. I saw a man and said good morning to him.
He turned to look at me and then turned back and continued to make his prayers.
At this moment I smiled and I said, "Why are you making your prayer to
this stone, don't you know there is only one God in the Mayan world,
why a praying to this stone, this is primitive!" Again he turned to look
at me and look deep into me, and he said, "Oh, you are with these people
who came with the University, and you are the ones with the knowledge. It is
such a pleasure to meet you. Good morning, my name is Pascual and I'm
just a poor Indian. Would you do me the honor of telling me your name?" I
felt stupid and replied, "I'm sorry I didn't mean to be rude,
my name is Carlos, and I came with the group from the university. My intention
was not to disturb your prayers. I just wanted to ask why if you have a principal
god why you are making a ceremony to this stone. He smiled and he said, "This
stone that you see here is the representation of the Great Father, and this
stone has the energy of the Great Father and when I make a prayer the presence
of the Great Father is here. Do you have a picture of your mother?" "Yes." "Could
you show me please?" So I showed him the picture and he said, "Is
this your mother?" "Yes, it's my mother." "Are
you sure?" "Yes, of course" and he said, "No stupid
man, this is a picture of your mother." When you see this picture there
is a feeling there, a connection, and that is the same thing that happens here.
Here in this stone is the energy of the Great Father, of the Great Spirit,
and you can be sure that he will protect our crops and us. I have this year
the best crops I have in my entire life. I have extra money and I am so happy
and I come here to say thanks to God. And I said, "Yes you are right,
I?m going to leave and let you continue making your prayers." He
said, "Come back here, take these candles and talk into them and put
them in the fire. You can't come to the fire and leave like an animal.
Say thanks to the representation of the divinity." And so I took the
candles and I prayed that we remain safe in that place, because at that moment
there was unrest in the area, with guerillas etc. The next day I went back
to the work we were doing with the sociologist, but in the next days I became
more curious about this man I had met; I was impressed by his eyes. When
he looked at me, he saw deep inside me, and I felt that this man knew me, more
than I knew myself. I tried to find him again, and I forgot his name. I searched
and searched but all the faces of the indigenous people looked the same to
me in the marketplace and I thought, "How am I going to find this man." But
I felt that if I could find him, something important would happen. One month
later, a young indigenous came to me and said, "Don Pasqual invites you
to have dinner at his home." When I went to his house we began to talk
and then he took my hand and he looked for my pulse and closed his eyes for
a few minutes then he began to tell me the history of my life. Events that
I forgot, promises I made and never fulfilled. It was a complete history of
my life, and I was very impressed. I asked him how he did that and said, "In
your blood is the memory of your life, and your blood talked to me and I just
repeated what it said to me." "Why are you doing this for me",
I asked and he replied, "Because you have a big problem. When you were
young you had the gift of divination, and you asked spirit to cut this gift
from you, and now you are trying to recover this gift, to be a visionary. That's
the reason I called for you. I can invite you to work with us, in my tradition,
and I can teach you. I don't promise you will recover your vision, but
you will learn a lot of things."
During these times traveling was difficult. I went when I could and studied
with him. I was the only disciple who wasn't indigenous, and the others
saw me as stupid, and as interrupting the group. They made me feel alone. I
thought, well this is the price we non-indigenous people have to pay if we
want to have access to this knowledge. I was impressed by the power that this
man had but I knew nothing of the tradition. Don Pasqual was the leader of
one of the most ancient clans, the Clan of the Eagles. The problems with the
guerrillas made it hard to travel. The Army viewed sociologists and anthropologists
as military objectives as since they believed they were putting bad ideas in
the heads of the indigenous people. So I couldn't go there for five years,
but we would still find ways to meet up for him to teach me. When it came time
for me to walk the Mayan path to become an Ajq'ij, Don Pasqual said, "Carlos,
you can't continue with me", and I said, "Why not! I am ready.
You are my Elder, you are my teacher.""No it's impossible
for you to continue with me, because you need to walk the path for one year
and then work for me for 9 months." "That not a problem, because
if I am close to you I'm going to learn a lot" I replied. This
is not the problem, the problem is that during this time you need to take a
vow of abstinence." And I replied, "that's not a problem,
I don't eat meat, I am a vegetarian, and I can fast for 10 to 14 days
with only water." "No, the abstinence I'm talking of is a
vow of sexual abstinence, and you can't do it?"(laughs) "Of
course I can't do it." So he sent me to Elder in another more flexible
tradition that didn't have these restrictions. But he taught me to work
with the wind, the mist and the water, and how to bring rain (and it work with
good success I suppose (rained in SF that day)). It seems that now the clouds
and the rain follow me.
Was it a different clan that you went to, after Don Pasqual?
In these times about 30 or so years ago, there were the clans
of the jaguars, eagles, bees, and bats. But now with the evangelical and
fundamentalist Christians,
globalization, many clans have been destroyed. In the 50's, McCarthy
made a plan for Latin America, designed to make the indigenous people into
consumers. Part of the plan involved destroying indigenous traditions by giving
money to different evangelical churches that then sent ministers to Latin America
and especially Bolivia, Ecuador, Guatemala, Colombia and Peru to convert the
indigenous people to Christianity. The CIA sold weapons to our governments,
paid off the generals, and fostered corruption. They also gave out a lot of
loans. We were not a poor country before these events. Nobody used to be interested
in the dollar before, because one dollar was only worth ninety cents of our
currency. Our economy was destroyed during the Cold War. Guerillas and the
Army would set up camp on different sides of the most traditional Mayan villages.
The first step was to kill all the Elders of the village so that the village
was left without leaders. The guerillas would go into town asking for food,
and of course if you have a weapon and you ask for food you get it. The next
day the Army would come and say, "Who was the bastard that gave the guerillas food?" They
would take these people and they would kill them, and then they'd ask
for food for themselves. The next day the guerillas would come into town saying, "Who
was the bastard who gave the Army food", and so on. It was a game; the
guerillas and the Army would never have confrontations. Then the fundamentalist
priests from the Evangelical church North America would step into the picture.
They were in on this whole game. They would make badges that say that a person
is a member of the Evangelical church. The guerillas and the Army didn't
torture or kill these people. Of course, the people in the village see, "Oh
if I have one of these cards and go to church and clap for two hours they won?t
kill me." This caused many indigenous people to accept Jesus, and this
how things changed. They killed many of the Mayan elders and destroyed much
of the tradition. There were some Elders who kept their mouths shut and survived,
but people were scared to talk to them. It was too dangerous. This is how many
of the big Mayan clans were destroyed. Only now is some of the tradition and
knowledge coming back. However a lot of the tradition was lost. The Elders
who did survive were often in the deeper part of the country, and they preserved
the traditions. Now the Elders want to share this knowledge with all humanity
because this is time for unity in the human race. All those walking in the
path of light need to be united. We need to work together because otherwise
humanity may destroy itself. The Mayan prophecies about the Dec 21 of the year
2012 don't necessarily mean the world is going to end. It says that the
kind of life we live, the economy and the society is going to change to a new
type of humanity. Humanity with more conscience, more respect for the Mother
Earth. This doesn't happen instantly. This is going to take time. We
hope that around the time of 2046 that there will be a new vision in place.
At this moment we, as Mayans believe that a lot of humanity is going to disappear
during this shift.
At this moment in time, what are the most important teachings the Mayan world can
offer us?
There is a lot of interest in ancient cultures and spiritual traditions. It
is important that people go deeply into these traditions. Many of these traditions,
philosophies and ways of life are similar because they came from ancient mother
honoring traditions, which in the Mayan world call Tula culture. Many people
think their religion, their tradition or their project is the one truth, the
only truth, when it is a just a part of the Universe, a part of a great truth.
This is one of the most important messages of unity. They are all different
manifestations of the same great truth. The problem is that many of these traditions
are fighting. The leaders of these different ways need to go to deeper into
their traditions and focus on humility and harmony. The Mayan tradition focuses
on harmony, with ourselves, with our neighbors, and with the Mother Earth.
We in the light need to come to a union against the darker forces. At this
time the balance is with the other side, they are destroying the Mother Earth;
they are making wars and propagating consumerism. We need a balance. A few
people have millions of dollars and then millions are dying because they have
nothing to eat. We need to respect each other as humans so we can in turn respect
the animals, the trees and Mother Earth. This is the call of the Mayan elders.
It is a simple message.
What's your part in this mission?
When I was a kid I had a dream. I saw many people from different
nations, Native American nations, with feathers and pipes. When I got a little
older
I told my father what I saw. He showed me some pictures of Tikal, and I said, "Yes,
this is the place." Then I knew my purpose of life, my mission was to
be vehicle of the knowledge of the Elders. When we had a gathering of the Elders
in December of 1995, and at that moment I thought, "I have finished my
mission for this life and I'm going to go to the lake, and I'm
going to write and heal people and do divination and I'm going to be
so happy." But the Elders had other plans, they sent me out to the world
because they think I understand Western Civilization, and the indigenous people,
and they sent me out to be a spokesman for the tradition. Each of the Ajq'ij
has a specialty, some of them are healers, and others can cut the bad energies,
are diviners or work with the sacred calendar. My specialty is to work with
the sacred calendar, the Tzolkin. The Tzolkin is a very good tool for understanding
our own energies in relation to other energies around us. The elders feel this
is a crucial time, if we don't change our ways and respect our environment
and Mother Earth we will destroy ourselves. We are living in the times that
many prophets from different cultures have talked about with all the sickness,
earthquakes, floods, drought, global warming and holes in the ozone. The Elders
are trying to show people that it is time to change our ways, respect Mother
Earth and the each other's traditions. In the richer countries we see
the faces of many people and they are empty and unhappy because they just a
number, a card, a machine, and they don't use the experience of the Elders.
The Elders get put into a nursing home. This is big mistake because these people
have a lot of experience and knowledge. The famous American dream is turning
into a nightmare. This is why the eyes of humanity are looking to the ancient
cultures to teach us how to preserve our world.
What else would you like to tell me about the life of a Mayan Priest?
When I tell people where I went last month and I tell them
Colombia, Paris or Italy, they say, "What a nice life you have!" They think that
travel is happiness, but the life of a shaman is tiring, we are always in the
role of service for humanity. We invest a lot of time and energy and there
are moments when we feel tired, empty. We don't have time to go sightseeing.
We just go to a place and work and work. There are a lot of people who are
angry with us because we are coming to awaken the people. But this is part
of my destiny and I accept it. The best life for a Mayan priest is one where
the priest lives in his/her community and heals people. I would love to do
this, but my destiny is to travel and travel and travel. On the positive side
we get to share with people and help people.
Who else, apart from Don Pasqual, taught you the ways of a Mayan priest?
Don Pasqual is an Elder who really taught me and who helped me to develop
my power. There was another important Elder who taught me called Don Isidro.
He was really different than Don Pasqual because he was an academic man with
a doctorate in international laws. He spoke 14 different languages. His house
was a labyrinth of books and if you picked up a book and looked in it you would
find notes relating to other books in the house.
Carlos Barrios is a Mayan Ajq'ij, who originates from and resides in Guatemala.
Carlos has been given the mission by his elders to begin sharing the prophecies
and teachings of the Mayan peoples with the rest of the world. Carlos travels
internationally to share these teachings and to generate awareness and support
for the rescue and preservation of the ancient Mayan tradition in his homeland.
Carlos is also the author of "Kam Wuj: El Libro del Destino", and out of print
book on the astrology and prophecies of the Mayan peoples. Carlos is presently
working on a revised edition which is to be translated to English.
Saq' Be': Organization for Mayan and Indigenous Spiritual Studies is a non
profit organization based in New Mexico, US. Saq' Be' works to bring people,
especially young adults, together with ancient traditions for the purpose of
cultural and spiritual preservation and to open the doors of opportunity for
those traditions to share their teachings with the rest of the world. Preservation
programs include Radio broadcast capacity for the Native community in Chichicastenango,
Guatemala and support for filmed documentation efforts of elders and guides
of the Mayan tradition. Meetings programs include trips to Native communities
in Guatemala (next trip is for the Mayan New Year, June, 2004) and arranging
for travel and teachings for the keepers of this ancient wisdom to the US and
abroad. More information can be found at: http://www.sacredroad.org, or by
email at: saqbe[at]sacredroad[dot]org.
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